Intervention Methods with the Individual 2
Dr. David Ribner
topics include:Transference
-first spoken about by Freud.
He tried to fix his theories with time, so we have to be careful about
which specific time context he was writing about.
-Freud used "Anna O" to write about transference. She was actually Breuer's patient.
à"Studies
in hysteria" – 1895 – 13 years after Breuer treated her (they
wrote the book together)
-all Freud's patients were women and they all had 1 diagnosis ="hysteria"
àshe was 21, religious, artistic, well rounded education, sharp
àshe was single
àbreuer
was 38. he started dealing with unconscious – through hypnosis
-what was her symptoms? –paralysis
that kept changing, anorexic, MPD. Started when her dad died. Anna had
a role of helping her sick (and now deceased dad.) – this included
showering him!!! (eeew!)
-her symptoms got somewhat
better when she came to therapy ("ventilation") = "the
talking cure" (coined by Anna Freud)
àBreuer spent a lot of time on Anna's case (vs. other cases of his) – this caused trouble in his home (though no historical evidence of sex in the relationship)
àmade
Breuer realize that perhaps sexuality could be in the air in a therapeutic
relationship – so he stopped the therapy – after a few hours, he
is called back to his clinic and is told that Anna is going through
labor (w/o pregnancy!) – made him realize how deep the transference
could be!!!
-this notion was extended
by Freud -"transference love" – at first, Freud thought
that only love (i.e. sex) is transferred
-so from here, Freud developed
his understanding of transference
Definition of transference
-the idea is that emotions that are rooted not in the here and now, but from an (yet) unknown source, which tries to repeat a past scheme
àpeople try to fix their past – "to
have a happy ending"
Problem:
Definition of conflict
-2 fantasies which don't fit each other
àusually, we have mechanisms which find a reasonable solution ("stay in bed for another 15 minutes")
àwhen we only have a partial solution
= neurosis (definition) –means that a symptom remains – i.e.
going out yet feeling guilty for going out of home after age 30
Psychosis: Freud said
that this is an escape from the conflict (vs. solution)
-some of his students disagreed:
i.e. david fenechel: can't blame the patient for anger he brings –
sometimes the anger of the patient is legit.! So, therapist also has
to check himself too! Another example: some thought that transference
is only in the therapy session, but not in outside world relationships
-projection – defense mechanism
– just to reduce tension (by definition of defense mechanism) –
transference in not a ego function, but a thing to fix the past
31/10/2007
We spoke about our internship today
6 or 7th
class – transference text – American test
6/11/2007
Transference
-by definition, it is unconscious.
Thus, it is hard to deal with. There is a confusion of time and object.
He tried to deal w/ a past object here –and with a different object.
Thus is is detached from reality
Transference reaction: a one time transference episode where something provokes a past scheme of emotion/reaction. But it is not the trend
-it shows our relationship
w/ our past
-transference is not the only
way to understand the patient – there are many tools, and transference
is one of them – unlike the classic psychoanalytic theory
Criticism of psychoanalysis:
there is blatant ignoring of present! And the therapy processes support
regression – but before the session is over, you need to return the
patient to present/stability
-some claim there is an inherent relation b/w transference and resistance
àbecause people are resistant to change! No one wants to change. People do want to feel better, but can't do anything about it.
àand
we can't promise our patient that any form of change will lead to better
secondary consequences. The worse thing we can do as therapists is to
be prophetics – i.e. diets won't necessary bring happiness
-and people's resistance
to change is stronger in the emotional realm
àpeople
rather have the system [others] change and not them. They need to come
to a realization that change is only within them and not the system
-do not assume that if someone
brings up content from the past, then there is only transference ài.e.
a haredi lady won't look directly at a male therapist. This is from
her learnt past, but that is not transference!!!! It is from her past
but not an attempt to relive something
Transference symptoms (you need more than just one to assume transference – but a repetition of a cluster of then)
Borderline: 2 trajectory theories:
new study: compare b/w 3 approaches
àused 12 elements -1st 2= only 6 criteria of behavior results. The transference answered all 12 elements
don't forget: one of
the defining criteria for borderline is a good reality testing
Distinction b/w ego strengths/functions [same thing] and defense mechanisms
ego strengths/functions:
- one of the main things of the ego is to negotiate b/w will and reality. ài.e.
so he needs the ability to learn. some claim that even walking/eating
is part of the ego. Thus, even in psychotics, they have a basic ego
[it helps them survive], but it doesn't help them do higher functions
- so we can ask: what help the patient survive thus far – what needs
now to be strengthened
defense mechanisms: by definition: their only function is to reduce tension. They don't help me solve problems. They just reduce the tension to ego will not be paralyzed. i.e. in trauma, the defenses are shattered, and the ego becomes dysfunctional. They are kinda survival geared.
-some defense mechanisms are more primitive and others are more mature defenses.
processes: i.e. in hard cases, i.e. family loss: at first, there is denial [primitive] and later, reality sinks in [and more mature defenses kick in]
àso
the Shiva process, the guests protect that person who is not in reality
right now. Later, it will sink in, and thus there is a ritual return
to function. This is seen in almost every religion
àthere
is also a psychotic form of denial
-best defense mechanism:
humor: it decreases the tension but w/o denial of reality
-when the stressors are perceived
as intolerable, then we tend to regress to previous defenses, since
there is a tendency to "believe" that they work
14/11/2007
Freud:
2 drives:
àall
energy of id is in calming. The id is not related to reality. Ego is
supposed to help the id out. So all of ego's energy comes from the id,
since it is supposed to be a servant of the id
Hartmann:
-some of id's energy is in the ego. But ego has other functions too, independent of the id.
àso ego has its own functions besides
the id and drive, and all the rest.
--
-important element of therapeutic relation: transference
-another one is the therapeutic alliance – contract – çåæä/áøéú èéôåìé
àthis is the opposite to the transference, which is based on fantasy. The therapeutic alliance is based in reality.
àthe contract can change is reality
changes
Object relations: there are 3 objects in the therapy room:
the role of the patient in the working alliance
-in order to gain from psychoanalysis, what does patient have to do? Which patients can to begin with get from which kind of therapy?
-question: what does the patient have to bring:
reminder: we do not
have a mandate to force our therapy onto patients. A person has to come
and want the therapy. Everyone has a right to destroy his own life.
We might come in when helping others dependent on he person [not adults,
but kids], but otherwise, it is anyone's right to self-destruct
-another reminder: people come
for help after numerous attempts to fix their problems themselves.
àthus
we also ask of the patient to ùéúåó ôòåìä – agreeability
to work together
Class-21/11/2007
Neurotic transference:
neurotic: only a partial solution to a conflict to the point where
there are still remnants of the conflict in the guy's life, including
in his transference.
-until now we spoke about 2 components of therapy
-real relationship:
we have 2 people sitting across from each other, and speak about hard
content. So we would be surprised if there would be no real relationship.
We'd see it strongly in ending the relationship. It is a problem if
there are unethical elements here. –i.e. not crossing the therapist-client
relationship.
Real relationship (term)
àbut, transference is experientially real! Even though it is not "real"
-working alliance is also somewhat
"artificial" – it is also "true"
By the way, the therapy has:
-so any relationship b/w 2
relationship also has elements of fantasies and elements of reality.
Fantasies have an important element in our relationships – i.e. romantic
relationships are the more apparent. Some of the fantasy in relationship
is transference and some of it is real. The difference b/w any relationships
and therapeutic relationship is the working alliance (contract). Any
other relationship only has transference and real relationships. Adults
have the ability to differentiate b/w reality and fantasy
Another important element of therapeutic relationship: our inappropriate behavior
-sometimes, the client is reacting
to a real that we did. So in those cases, we can't say it is transference.
The patient's reaction might be over-reacting or reacting in stereotypically
transferential way, the core issue might be in something true/real.
Thus, if there is a therapeutic mistake, we have to correct it and not
just claim "transference". Sometimes, we might even damage,
or at least hinder progress by therapist reaction. He should also to
be expected to b/h in "real" ways, but of course on condition
that this is for the client's best.
This leads to the following question: "how much do you bring your personal life into the session, as a therapist?"
-we will speak more about this
in counter-transference
-if we use more classical psychoanalysis,
then transference is a core tool. But when we don't do this style ad
we probably have shorter treatments then we don't necessary induce it,
but we can definitely use it as a therapeutic tool when it comes up.
Wolberg, in his article speaks about how to reduce transference when
we think that it is not conducive to the therapy [i.e. short term therapy]
Object relationship – each
new object adds to the personality –so you can do transference from
other objects to the therapist
-there are several transference
in the same relationship: he could use aggression in order to "protect"
the therapeutic relationship –i.e. from "unacceptable" sexual
fantasies of his – aggression is more acceptable to this patient than
sexuality.
àis
more damaged personality, the transference is more clear. But it is
also less warranted to use it
If therapist wants to use transference,
you need to allow it to develop and thus you need to be able to tolerate
it. don't close it too early. Closing the transference early is good
for cases that you do not want to use it.
àwe
need to know what transference does to us as therapists – so that
we know how to react
Philosophic problem:
-we assume that self-awareness of the patient allows him to function better – so we give interpretations. This assumption leads to transference analysis – this assumption is strong in classical psychoanalysis. But we have to take it with its limitation. Not always does self-awareness lead to feeling better. Question: who said that self-awareness leads to feeling better. Optimal disillusionment: I want the patient to understand that how he saw his life is causing his problems. So the therapy is trying to make him see his life differently, but seeing his conflicts and solving them better.
àthis
is nice. And important. Yada yada. But! It also has a pessimistic and
sometimes damaging message: all your life sucks! – so you need to
let him know slowly so he can tolerate it. too much interpretation
will over-explode the patient and he will escape somehow. And on this
basis, we need to use transference analysis – with great care. Sometimes,
we don't need to interpret it but rather just understand him and react
accordingly.
5/12/2007
We had a test on transference
today
12/12/07
Counter-transference
-also came from Freudian literature
-he did not explicitly speak about it too much – because he thought that it is just like transference – just the therapist's transference. The only thing is that the therapist's transference is dangerous.
-expect classical Freudians,
no one uses counter-transference like Freud did.
Freud's counter-transference:
-just like he client's transference
– just the therapist having ties to the past and past relationships.
This is dangerous: since this is unconscious and unsolved issues.
And thus is an uncontrolled situation of usage of using the client for
therapist needs. The client doesn't come to solve the therapist's problems.
The source of those problems is in the therapist's early-life past.
Thus the therapist's transference can only damage the therapy. The way
to solve this potential issue is for the therapist to go to therapy
too.
-so counter-transference is
just transference, the other way.
Modern view of counter-transference
-forget the wording of "counter-transference": in addition to the Freudian counter-transference: the total personality of the therapist as it comes forth in therapy. Not only the past events and conflicts. Thus, counter-transference could be a therapeutic tool, since I can see how I am reacting and feeling and assume how others react to him too.
àthis
requires self-awareness, even of hard stuff.
Theory
Borderline Personality structure: - though this definition is not that accepted, 1/4 of the population falls under this category. Therapists dealing with such people themselves undergo many emotional reactions – frustration, anger, lack of borders
àthis
is massive countertransference which those particular patients invoke
in therapists. Often, those reactions/symptoms appearing in the therapists
are reactions to the patient's disavowed content.
In therapeutic relations developing slower:
-In therapeutic relationships which develop slower, there is an increase in mutuality and empathy from session to session. In those cases, it is harder to feel the countertransference creeping up on you. This is b/c in those cases, the boundary b/w me as a therapist and me as a person is blurred. Sometimes therapists can't even sense them at all. This is the countertransference which the classical Freudian approach spoke of.
In less stormy therapies, you
can speak of counter-transference which stems from the therapist's childhood
conflicts
Various kinds of counter-transference:
Insight
-is not the only thing that will help. Some people's insight doesn't help their problems
ài.e.
CBT is very successful, yet doesn't use insight
26/12/2007
Classical 3rd person in room: i.e. Pregnancy – if we have to end therapy b/c therapist is pregnant, you have to bring it up w/ client – since it was a choice he did not have a say in. we also have to say something about the increasingly apparent third "person" in room – (the baby/the partner of the therapist)
Self-disclosure is also a factor
in this therapeutic relationship: that unlike client's fantasies, the
therapist has her own partner, not being the client. and that she has
a sexual life. We have to accept and bring up in therapy what is apparent
to the client about the therapist's life changes/ the most important
thing to speak about is the possible eventual ending of the therapeutic
relation b/c of the pregnancy
In hospitals/chronic settings
-those settings have clients
where every year, the client gets another intern. So the real relationship
is not w/ the person but w/ the institution. This means that it causes
some "blockage" in the therapists – b/c they know that the
patient won't invest in yet another relationship àthis causes an unprofessional way of
thought: "no need or ability to change – he is stable/found his
home"/no need to change àwill cause rejection
Counter-transference includes: everything we bring
-how we look/sit
-room furnishing
-place of the institution – center or periphery of institution
àNIMBY = not in my backyard
-ecological countertransference: touching one part of system influences the all. Changes in our life could change the therapeutic dyad – not only something seen as a wedding ring, but rather the "unseen" things, like an argument you had just before w/ your wife/a loss if the family/etc… - you got to look into it to see if and how it influences the therapy – so it won't harm the therapy/
àthe client sees it all
-in self-disclosure of the
therapist, we have to ask how much it is for the benefit of the client.
Don't do it if would harm (classical view), yet if it increases client's
awareness/etc…, you should do it (more modern view)
Main question: is our
reactions as therapists stemming from the therapy at hand or our personal
conflicts – are we helping the client or ourselves? Are we solving
his conflicts or our own? The danger is that the therapist's unconscious
will reign in the therapist
Counter-transference indicators
2/1/2008
Today in class, we spoke about cross-cultural counter-transference by speaking about our personal ethnicities
20.2.2008
Resistance
-some people think that resistance
needs to be dealt with 9b/c it's the therapist's problem
Resistance – a wall
around a thing which he client does around something. This is not a
pathology thing but perhaps a health thing – to protect oneself. So
we should not immediately undo it!
1) Therapy is meant to deal
w/ tough issues which came up in the client's life. There are probably
"scars" in his psychic life, and therapy is mean to help it.
for example – if defense mechanisms were supposed to make his survive
a bad experience, then reducing the defense mechanisms will obviously
invoke resistance. Why stay in the pathological state which the defense
mechanisms are trying to defend against? Sometimes, it is better for
the situation to leave the thing in the unconscious
2) any change to an unknown
state is anxiety-filled – so resistance is there. And we can't guarantee
100% that if he changes, his disposition will be better then what he
was used to for the last 30 years! So we have to respect the client's
choices and ìååé
– so resistance is not pathology
but rather an attempt to find a balance. At times, there may be more
positive than negative in it
3) when the client decides
he wants change in his life, and he decides that he has to undergo psychotherapy,
there might be a message of: you are the faulty/I do not agree with
your world view. No wonder that such a message of "you're faulty"
receives some resistance.
Stages of resistance analysis:
how do we deal with the resistance?
Two approaches
Example: someone wants a second opinion
-the literature seems to take
the acceptance approach
Third approach:
Check the therapeutic relationship – why is he not trusting me (his therapist?) why is there no sense of openness? Safety?
àwe
have to see what in the room feels threatening to him and hinders him
from bringing up tough stuff
Another approach: sidetracking
-avoid the topics which brought
up the resistance and instead, speak about other [important] issues
– and ask at later stages if he is ready to deal with those original
issues
27/2/2008
Examples and analysis of resistance
Tangent – object relationships
How do you treat resistance?
-see where the sources of resistance is – i.e. what is the issue which dictates his life? What are his basic values (superego?) which dictates his life and thus enters therapy through the resistance? You can't treat the superego – it will shatter itself (it’s a weak structure) and will pull down the ego with it. thus the best treatment for anti-socials to deal w/ reward-and-punishment. By the way, even anti-socials have basic values – they have some borders.
-changes have to be done in
a secure relationship – so you may have to let the resistance happen
for now – until the relationship is secure enough
Examples/signs of resistances:
12/3/2008
Personality disorder
q) what is the difference b/w personality and personality disorder
a) personality disorder –
does his thing, yet doesn't solve his anxiety, and his functioning is
lowered = personality disorder
2 factors
important:
-we won't see a personality problem in 1 area of life, but in most areas of life to make it a personality problem
-begins in early adulthood
formalities:
-DSM - good tool for organizing
thoughts, it’s a syndrome (symptome groups) list.
-psychosis/functioning/claimed problems -1st axis
-personality – 2nd
axis
Borderline
-mostly women -70-80%
2 therories
Kernberg – 25% has borderline personality structure àmain idea – it’s a range
àhe thinks that borderline is a bigger category than the DSM says
àand
you can treat those in the not extreme part of the borderline
Borderline's main feature:
-borderlines are chronic patients – some are in therapy for 30-40 years
-masterson: borderline moms make borderline kids – they can't bear his independence
-in some, undiagnosed borderlines,
they might succeed in making some things but not other things stable
Idea: -sexuality- in
hope of searching for new/eternal object – to fill the emptiness.
Narcissistic personality disorder
-i.e. a movie star who likes to see his image on screen – he gets satisfaction and it works, (functioning) then it works àthat is not narcissism
àbut
if the thing does not bring him satisfaction (i.e. "others get
more") then it is narcissism
Narcissism characters
àagain
– he is unsatisfied with the situation, which makes it a personality
disorder = i.e. fear of rejection is not exactly fun
-"mix personality disorder"
– a mix of several
Schizoid
19/3/2008
Empathy as a therapeutic tool
What is the difference b/w empathy and sympathy?
àso we have an ethical obligation to go beyond mere words
-i.e. loving ice cream is not the same love as loving your kids
àso
we have to look at the emotional level – not just the words
Question: if you are
not sure what the patient is saying, then how do you get to understand
him?
Answer: -the key is to focus on the patient's real emotions
-sometimes people say one feeling
to mask a deeper feeling – i.e. anger t/w kids masks his self-esteem.
We have to be careful not to unmask it before he has better defense
mechanisms. If you don't have a better thing to offer him besides the
unmasking, then don't bother!
-So the first thing about empathy
is to find out what he feels. You use your own feelings to see how the
patient feels
2 tools:
1) how you feel as a therapist
2) the cause and time and
which it takes place
When expressing your emotion
à
"you must feel disappointed because who you need are not here"
26/3/2008
Class change: 28 April+ instead
of 30 at 2
-we had a class exercise on
empathy today
2/4/2008
Projective identification
History
-coined by Melanie Klein. Its
definition was changed with time – i.e. Ogden and Kishman
Projection: put X into someone else. something from sender, and the sender behaves accordingly. In Klein's view, the receiver's behavior is irrelevant. The projection destination could be in fantasy.
Projective identification:
the receiver must behave accordingly. There is an attempt to change
the receiver, and the mechanism's success is seen in the receivers resulting
behavior. Usually, a feared thing is projected
Stages of projective identification:
-usually, most targets do not
agree ti take on the projection. There are a natural reaction, such
as leaving the relationships/etc…
Ramifications
Factors nevertheless maintaining the target in the relationship:
Role theory
We have to behave in some role way
ài.e. a parent visiting his parents: double role (="role set")
àroles are not projective identification
àprojective
identification is behaving against one's own nature
-codependency
is a nice word for projective identification. At this point, Dr. Ribner
went on a rant about how there is no need for euphemisms since projective
identification is supposed to be a neutral word
4 kinds of projective identification
àbut
the more help, the more regression. This dynamic could get to the most
primitive (mom-infant) caring. àThe more he receives, the more he asks àdependency
only increases helplessness
Benefits:
When target leaves:
both collapse àshows
that projector is weak and the target is vulnerable
Sources of control projective identification
-->fear of abandonment
(=the kid thinks he is unworthy of love!!!). so he tried to fix relationship
with parents through fantasies and then try to control the other in
order to fit the other into the fantasies [thus: all relationships
are through manipulations]
àin
control projective identifications, the target will feel more weak,
so he is more likely to reject it
14.5.2008
Projective Identification – continued
Examples:
1) patient invites the therapist into a sexual relationship
àthe thing is a sexual atmosphere – not necessarily those rare cases of actual sex. The goal of the client in getting the therapist into a continuing and not an ending relationship. The sex becomes the main thing in the relationship. When unanswered, the patient will look for someone else as if to say to the therapist "oh, so you are sexually incompetent". Such a patient wants to feel accepted through sex. This patient probably got messages from parents (as kids) that the value of the kid id based on parental (sexual) satisfaction – again, it doesn't have to be actual sex
àso he lives with the message that self-worth=sexàlong
term sexual relationship =self-worth
Helping:
The message such a patient got is: love=ingratiating others, based on family of origin's messages: other's interests are before yours!
àso
everyone will be indebted forever. So therapy can't end and therapist
won't leave since he is indebted. Such people assume that love is by
what you do and not just by "being"
-one patient could use several
kinds of Projective identifications, and if one kind did not satisfy
his wishes, he might try another kind of projective identification
-some theorists say that projective
Identification is a transference-countertransferenc
-others think that transference-countertransferenc
Treating projective identification
-Projective Identification
will only be in stronger relations. The patient has to feel that the
relationship can hold the projected content, as well as a relation strong
enough to be treated (fix the original problem àthrough its repetitiveness, hoping
for a resolution)
-if the therapist plays into the Projected Identification fantasy, the patient won't move on, and will just have another disappointment (old story repeated)
-if therapist refuses to play in: the client might feel rejection – because therapist is rejecting significant areas of his personality: his relationship style.
àtherefore,
you need empathic reactions to show that you're understanding (yet nit
accepting) ->and perhaps explain him what is going on. This can show
the client that you are not rejecting him as a person as opposed to
people in his past rejecting the whole person for something
Important: the client
needs not only explanations but also feel that it is true. So better
to explain in his words àit takes a strong and accepting relationship
to be able to see how he always tries to get into the same loop in his
life
-the client might try
to seek another "target" – based on how he perceives
the "rejection" – and therefore, must be dealt with i8n
the therapy room
-you need to help the patient
analyze what is going on in the present and past relationships and how
they are played out now
-interpretations need to be
emotive and not intellectual. If not, the patient will get into a historical
digression instead of the here and now.
-if we're not aware of the
Projective interpretations, our reactions will be unconscious (read
counter-transference) and then we will lose control over the psychotherapeutic
process. Solution: supervision.
-the therapeutic process needs
to change the Projective identification cycle and not get into it and
give it legitimization.
-whenever the therapist feels weird about something in the relationship, he should ask: is it projective identification? Am I being invited to be somehow else?
28.4.2008
Ending therapy/departure
-could be the most important part of therapy
-notify 4 meetings in advance
àall sessions after it will be influenced by the notion of the upcoming ending
àsome
will deny that you ever spoke of ending (in short term therapy)
Otto Rank – "Trauma of Birth"
-this work speaks of departings.
-all through life, people
go through departures – it reminds people of existential death as
the baby did from his mom, during birth
-we all had them but they are still painful.
-if it touches the patient,
then it touches us as therapists. So we have to analyze our side of
departing issues
Principles of therapeutic ending
* count down how many sessions we have left
* make it real!!! Speak about its significance
* some will react harshly-anger
could be expected
Freud: 3 conditions for when therapy should ideally end:
1) reduction of symptoms
2) if therapy would end, no regression would happen
3) continuation won't advance
the patient
-in our case (student internship),
there is a time limitation – we are done after a year. The significance
for the patient is that he has no continuality –while we move on in
life
-in endings, patient will try
to control the situation – i.e. deny the situation, not show up, etc…
("You think I have 4 sessions? You are wrong! I have 0!").
in cases where he leaves – try to convince him to have one more session/write
letter/refer to other therapist
-some will go through bereavement
process – thus need to cut the relationship completely!!! We need
to know and convey how to deal with endings!
Re-evaluating therapy: (at its end)
-talk about: intake, identified problem, considering the future (i.e. referral – and also make sure that the organization knows about this, so patient won't fall between chairs – usually, patient won't initiate himself!)
-last session: real goodbyes – i.e. with lower-functioning patients, plan what he will do during the times where the sessions used to be)
-prepare patient for next therapist and prepare therapist – by writing clear and full reports